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This shit actually happened. Maybe(?)......Once upon a time, in a land not nearly far,..
far enough away, called the Doomstead Diner........we all seek community......Hi I'm...
....Welcome..to...Futilitism....utility in futility = Futilitism......it's Futilitism, DAMN IT!......
..TOD FOOD FIGHT!!!...What the hell?..Thread Splitting<snip>....oh come on...why?
....Futility.....the dark thesis.......ha ha ha!<snip>and speaking of Giordano Bruno........
......so painful..........All is son..Picasso Moon........Cognitive Science.....iNow..please?
....Napalm in THE SMOKEHOUSE.....et tu WaterWeasel.......fucking NAZI Bitch!........
knife in my back!<snip>....The DIRTY JEWS!...banksters........you viscious<snip>.....
nest of anti-semites<snip>........RE is a CENSOR....I am locked in the DUNGEON....
The Scapegoat...Run, Glainty, Run<snip>.......My head is...spinning...I..I think I'm........
gonna................(retch!).......<snip>
What follows is a page from the Doomstead Diner as it appeared when I captured it into my database. The page that currently appears at the Diner has been altered substantially. I also captured that fake page for side by side comparison, and you can find it here on this blog. It is a post entitled "Report to Moderator - The FAKE Page".
I recommend opening two separate windows to do a full, side by side comparison.
I do not recommend going directly to the Doomstead Diner to see if I am telling the truth. The thread in question is sequestered in the "Dungeon", which only members may view, so you'll have to sign up to see it. I cannot in good conscience, as a Jew, provide you with the link. You'll have to find it for yourself. But if you must go there, please be forewarned. The site is run by a cabal of viscious anti semites, as some kind of highly inept propaganda front. I'm going to let the Simon Wiesenthal Center folks determine if these guys are a real danger to society or not.
I will have much more to say about the Doomstead Diner in future posts, if I manage to live that long.
What follows is a page from the Doomstead Diner as it appeared when I captured it into my database. The page that currently appears at the Diner has been altered substantially. I also captured that fake page for side by side comparison, and you can find it here on this blog. It is a post entitled "Report to Moderator - The FAKE Page".
I recommend opening two separate windows to do a full, side by side comparison.
I do not recommend going directly to the Doomstead Diner to see if I am telling the truth. The thread in question is sequestered in the "Dungeon", which only members may view, so you'll have to sign up to see it. I cannot in good conscience, as a Jew, provide you with the link. You'll have to find it for yourself. But if you must go there, please be forewarned. The site is run by a cabal of viscious anti semites, as some kind of highly inept propaganda front. I'm going to let the Simon Wiesenthal Center folks determine if these guys are a real danger to society or not.
I will have much more to say about the Doomstead Diner in future posts, if I manage to live that long.
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And (through RE's grace and divine wisdom) I DID start a thread
Wait a minute, I forgot to say something about RE's grace and divine wisdom.
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And speaking of grace and divine wisdom. . .
Golden Oxen,
Are you sure you don't mean this Peter:
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Biblical accounts
Just a little something to chew on. Be careful not to choke.
---futilitist's ghost
Golden Oxen,
I find myself that "Silence is Indeed Golden" now. Peter showed me the way, a very sincere and unusually brilliant man.
Are you sure you don't mean this Peter:
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Biblical accounts
The prediction, made by Jesus during the Last Supper that Peter would deny and disown him, appears in the Gospel of Matthew 26:33-35, the Gospel of Mark 14:29-31, the Gospel of Luke 22:33-34 and the Gospel of John 13:36-38. According to the Gospel of Matthew:
Peter replied, "Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will." "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "This very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times." But Peter declared, "Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you." And all the other disciples said the same.[5]
Later that night, Jesus was arrested. The first denial to a servant girl in Luke 22:54-57 is as follows:
Then they seized him and led him away, bringing him into the high priest's house. Peter followed at a distance and when they had kindled a fire in the middle of the courtyard and had sat down together, Peter sat down with them. A servant girl saw him seated there in the firelight. She looked closely at him and said, "This man was with him." But he denied it. "Woman, I don't know him," he said.[6]
The second denial to the same girl in Mark 14:69-70 is:
When the servant girl saw him there, she said again to those standing around, "This fellow is one of them." Again he denied it. [7]
The third denial to a number of people, is emphatic as he curses according to Matthew 26:73-75:
After a little while, those standing there went up to Peter and said, "Surely you are one of them, for your accent gives you away." Then he began to call down curses on himself and he swore to them, "I don't know the man!" Immediately a rooster crowed. Then Peter remembered the word Jesus had spoken: "Before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times." And he went outside and wept bitterly.[8]
The Gospel of Luke 22:59-62 describes the moment of the last denial as follows:
About an hour later another asserted, “Certainly this fellow was with him, for he is a Galilean." Peter replied, “Man, I don’t know what you’re talking about!” Just as he was speaking, the rooster crowed. The Lord turned and looked straight at Peter. Then Peter remembered the word the Lord had spoken to him: “Before the rooster crows today, you will disown me three times.” And he went outside and wept bitterly. [9]
The Gospel of John 18:13-27 describes the account of the three denials as follows:
Simon Peter and another disciple were following Jesus. Because this disciple was known to the high priest, he went with Jesus into the high priest’s courtyard, but Peter had to wait outside at the door. The other disciple, who was known to the high priest, came back, spoke to the girl on duty there and brought Peter in. “You are not one of his disciples, are you?” the girl at the door asked Peter. He replied, “I am not.” ... As Simon Peter stood warming himself, he was asked, “You are not one of his disciples, are you?” He denied it, saying, “I am not.” One of the high priest’s servants, a relative of the man whose ear Peter had cut off, challenged him, “Didn’t I see you with him in the olive grove?” Again Peter denied it, and at that moment a rooster began to crow. [10]
Following the resurrection of Jesus, the Gospel of John 21:15-17 narrates how Jesus asked Peter three times if Peter loved him, pointing to the rehabilitation of Peter following his repentance.[11]
Just a little something to chew on. Be careful not to choke.
---futilitist's ghost
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WHD, you're way ahead of me! 
You wrote:
"I imagine that role of the Scapegoat, in the village, would have been one of great honor, and would lead to a time of far greater respect within the community, if the Scapegoat survived it. As for F-bomb, he might be respected a great deal if he shows a capacity to let go of his will to wreak havoc, and add something other than malice to the community. Something like Humility. Or maybe just empathy. "
You've reminded me of an experience from my Intentional Community days; at one of them we had a Food Steward. This person was responsible for balancing the desires of vegans, lacto-ovo vegetarians, and carnivores in communal meals, and might as well been titled Food Scapegoat. Now since this job also involved sourcing food, making menus, and assigning cooking and cleanup duties, it was pretty much a full time job and so the Steward had no physical tasks. So it came to pass that someone else wanted the job, lobbied for it, and was elected at the annual meeting. After a few months, the community was in an uproar, the new Steward resigned in disgust, and Susan was put back in by consensus. Now that I think about it, Susan was a real empath; aside from good organizational skills I think the keys to her sucess were allowing people to speak their grievances without being defensive, and the humility to make apologies when appropriate.
So advice to Futilitist: at least in Susan's case, humility and empathy were among the qualities that did indeed lead to her having far greater respect in the community.
You wrote:"I imagine that role of the Scapegoat, in the village, would have been one of great honor, and would lead to a time of far greater respect within the community, if the Scapegoat survived it. As for F-bomb, he might be respected a great deal if he shows a capacity to let go of his will to wreak havoc, and add something other than malice to the community. Something like Humility. Or maybe just empathy. "
You've reminded me of an experience from my Intentional Community days; at one of them we had a Food Steward. This person was responsible for balancing the desires of vegans, lacto-ovo vegetarians, and carnivores in communal meals, and might as well been titled Food Scapegoat. Now since this job also involved sourcing food, making menus, and assigning cooking and cleanup duties, it was pretty much a full time job and so the Steward had no physical tasks. So it came to pass that someone else wanted the job, lobbied for it, and was elected at the annual meeting. After a few months, the community was in an uproar, the new Steward resigned in disgust, and Susan was put back in by consensus. Now that I think about it, Susan was a real empath; aside from good organizational skills I think the keys to her sucess were allowing people to speak their grievances without being defensive, and the humility to make apologies when appropriate.
So advice to Futilitist: at least in Susan's case, humility and empathy were among the qualities that did indeed lead to her having far greater respect in the community.
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And speaking of grace and divine wisdom. . .
F-bomb
Based on this weird, twisted mind-fuck response to GO, in oblique reference to his "betrayal" of your messianic Highness, and your recent dealings of late, I have to say, that avatar of yours doesn't remind me so much of Giordano Bruno, as of Nazgul, the Ringwraith.
Besides, you just insulted the gentle genius who built this house.
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I thought you were looking for a resident scapegoat. It has to be a little bit fun for me, or why would I take the job?
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I'd also like to echo Monsta's comments about attracting more educated folks here. I've got two Master's degrees and am employed as a Hydrologist, so I certainly fit that bill. But now I'm looking for the exits. I hear a lot of talk about having a high level discussion, but I don't see it here. I've tried myself to make respectful, thoughtful, on-topic posts but the discussions get hi-jacked or split or fizzle. Oh well. I tried.
I'm not gone yet. But if my posts get few and far between and then disappear, you'll know why.
This is the second time you have keyboarded out this complaint. The board is what you make it to be. I went and checked the commentary on my "For Whom the Bell Tolls" thread, you didn't drop in there. I'm always looking to chat up the articles on the Blog, not just my own either. You also could start more of your own threads, or start a Newz Channel like Joe and Agelbert and GO.
Or go into the archives and look for some of the longer threads, the Hyperinflation one is very long. You can start the conversation again with some New Insights you have. If you are smart you should be able to find something to say I am sure.
Anyhow, as WHD said, you haven't made many posts or been here very long, so if you disappear you won't be missed much. The Diner however can be an interesting place if you put some effort into it.
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If DD is such a penny-ante sandbox, why are your wasting your fabulous writing skills posting here? Go find another board worthy of your great writing talent.
I already have; over two years in good standing. Recently, you popped on, "critiqued" it in a questionable way with Leanan, and extended an invitation to here.
In this post, I use 'dime-a-dozen' in similar sense as 'penny ante' here. No biggie.
Your objective here is to show off your Creative Writing Skills while you denigrate the board? What?
It is? What part of it do you find denigrating? I find it more poetic. You mean like that poll I saw here the other day?
...it still was a pretty congenial place to come and discuss the end times of Industrial Civilization with a few other mostly quite intelligent people. It will be again even if I have to Imprison Diners for using Creative Writing skills to insult the Diner. Capishe?
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I am trying to motivate other Bloggers to be more FREE in speech..."
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'Course you are.
This dungeon or solitary confinement thing, incidentally, as ironic as it seems with the posts of someone banned from the Oil Drum in it, etc., seems more pernicious compared with TOD-type edits (censors) or bans. Perhaps a bit like a form of humiliation or shrouding an insult in a rhetorical question or advance apology:
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Wonder what Leanan would think about here-- assuming she had the time and inclination.
Thanks for the creative writing compliments by the way. I enjoyed writing it. <3 Hugs
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Hello Glainty Glassaische,
Pretty wild huh? Don't say I didn't warn you.
Pretty wild huh? Don't say I didn't warn you.
RE,
Dude. . .
I help you test the loyalty of one of your top Lieutenants, and you don't offer me the scapegoat job outright? This is the thanks I get? Man, this was just the audition. Who do you have that is better suited to the job?
Or were you saving the title for Golden Oxen?
---futilitist's ghost
Dude. . .
I help you test the loyalty of one of your top Lieutenants, and you don't offer me the scapegoat job outright? This is the thanks I get? Man, this was just the audition. Who do you have that is better suited to the job?
Or were you saving the title for Golden Oxen?
---futilitist's ghost
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Hello Glainty Glassaische,
Pretty wild huh? Don't say I didn't warn you.
Get some sleep, honey. After the glam.
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The whole Jesus Christ metaphor was actually real! Actual Martyrdom stuff. REALLY over-the-top. Really folks, F-Bomb is being Nailed to a Cross AND Burned at the Stake just like his stupid hero, Giordano Bruno. He is being put where he is Free to Speak from now until the Internet Goes Dark, in his own little Padded Cell!
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This is unadulterated crap and poison you are still producing in your web,
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Said the spider to the fly, see what a 15 point IQ advantage can do?
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Yeah, it can get you burned to a crisp!
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This dungeon or solitary confinement thing, incidentally, as ironic as it seems with the posts of someone banned from the Oil Drum in it, etc., seems more pernicious compared with TOD-type edits (censors) or bans. Perhaps a bit like a form of humiliation or shrouding an insult in a rhetorical question or advance apology
Indeed, it is sort of like the Stockade, where the offending member of the group is held up as an example of what NOT to do.
Anyhow, he's a persistent bugger, I'll give him that. I took the advice of some of the other members here and set his posts for moderation before they go up, so I can do them all in one Copy/Paste at the end of the day rather than having to do this over and over again while he is posting. Too time consuming.
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*RE never answered me, and my final question to Karpatok, above, has not been posted.
A lot of blood and guts have been spilled but I do think despite everything one must remain focussed on the things that matter. I recall you wanted to write an article documenting the flaws of Greer's thesis and the original ideas you presented in TOD seemed quite sound. If you focussed on this I am sure it would be well recieved as you are an intelligent person or is quite capable of making well supported arguments.
ReplyDeleteI just feel it would be a shame and a waste of talent that instead of pursuing this noble goal you get sidetracked by pity forum disputes. At the end of the day people are emotional beings and if you press the right buttons it will be easy to generate a particular response. As a intelligent person I am sure you can do this to not just one person but multiple people and more important, groups of people. This is especially true if you target the people of authority or influence in a group. This experiment however will in my opinion yield less significant results for the results are more widely known anyway. The facts of the counter thesis to the catabolic collapse would be more significant as it is less well known. Time is limited and I do feel it is important that good talent should not be squandered pursuing goals with limited values.